. i am talking about it saying i think it's good for this country. ruth is in sandy hook connecticut. >> good morning, bill. i am calling to say, please keep feeling guilty. >> why? >> because this adorable company does things to make sure that they don't pay taxes in the u.s. there is a thing called -- this was in "the new york times." it's double-dutch sandwich which reduces taxes by routing profits through irish subsidarbs like they are in i think arizona, even when they do things in california they manage to ship a part somewhere else. so they are one of the worst, even worse than wal-mart in terms of what they might have contributed to to. i take it that $24,000,000,000. >> they are avoiding in taxes . >> one little tiny thing, they have had the opportunity over the courses of the years to do things in a much safer way when they manufacture in china and all over the place. >> no. there have been stories about the working conditions in china which is another reason i am glad these jobs are coming here. ruth ruth, you make a good point.